I don't think I want to rescue this cute lil fella (alive when picture taken.)
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I don't think I want to rescue this cute lil fella (alive when picture taken.)
The chances are he woulda been unhappy!
Egon [img]/forums/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
Not a camper, but definitely not happy either! [img]/forums/images/icons/frown.gif[/img]
KInda reminds me of ME & progress! I bet YOU can guess which ones me & which ones progress! " I just stopped for a sec to get my breath!"
Gee thanks for the PM threatening to turn me in to PETA!! I really needed that!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe baling IS ethical treatment of badgers...
Pat
Knowing Almost nothin aBout Badgers, Pat was that up in u'r part of the country! Do ya'll have badger up there in Oklahoma! ??
Pat,
I was thinking of passing the photo on to my daughters who attend the University of Michigan. They would probably pass it around when U of M plays the University of Wisconsin (guess what their nickname/mascot is) in football. I figured it would just add to the "trash talk" that goes on during collegiate football season. [img]/forums/images/icons/smile.gif[/img] However, after seeing your reply, maybe I should reconsider as I would not want the additional publicity to cause PETA show up at your place demonstrating and spray painting all the badgers and cows on your property as a way of protecting them from you. Then that might lead them to check on the fish in all your ponds to make sure you're not using "cruel" methods of catching them, like with a hook. [img]/forums/images/icons/laugh.gif[/img]
Badgers are quite robust and have lousy dispositions (in my opinion) You don't want to mess with one unprovoked much less baled.
I did not take the picture, it was sent to me by a friend near KC, Missouri.
In the United States, the American badger can be found from the west coast to Texas, Oklahoma, Missouri, Illinois, Ohio, Michigan and Indiana. It is also found in southern Canada in British Columbia, Manitoba, Alberta and Saskatchewan.
Pat
JML, Use as you will. I do not personally fear PETA as I have always been a strong supporter of the ethical treatment of animals which includes, with appropriate species, humane killing, proper preparation, and consumption.
Pat
Pat, I understand that Badgers can be found in all the places (states) you mentioned, but I think they're relatively rare in some of those places. In fact, I've lived in Texas and Oklahome most of my life and the ONLY badgers I've ever seen outside a zoo has been on trips to Alaska, a few states northwest of Texas and Oklahoma. [img]/forums/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
Not to skip subjects, But River Otters was another rare critter that I'd never seen till a GREAT RAINY PERIOD, ya'll remember those times "DON'T YOU!" brought some out of the river bottoms of the BIG THICKET area of TeJas. I've seen several now!
Yep, I've never seen any kind of otters outside zoos except in Canada and Alaska.
Bird, In the more (human) populated ares of their range they are not treated too well and are often shot at or otherwise made unwelcome. The resident populations sharing range with humans in higher densities are more reclusive if not more nocturnal and tend to not be noticed even when present.
The roadkill population density estimation method may not apply very well to them. Coons, possum, armadillos and such can have their resident populations estimated by the frequency and number of roadkill. This even works with some owls in additioin to deer and some snakes but for whatever reason badger seem to be underrepresented by roadkill. I don't know why. A good question for the state dept of wildlife or the state biologist.
Pat
Thinking about the river otters reminded me of when we spent the night (6-5-90) in a "do it yourself" campground along the Liard River about half a day's drive south of Watson Lake enroute to Alaska. I don't know how many of you have every actually seen a real whirlpool, but it was an awsome sight. Really big trees would come floating down the river and that whirlpool would stand them upright and suck them right down out of sight. Never even in movies and such have I seen such an awsome display of water power. And the next morning, I was standing out there drinking a cup of coffee and an otter came swimming around the edge of that whirlpool. [img]/forums/images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] It was absolutely astounding. I wouldn't have believed a fish or anything else could survive there.
2 things boys, I was watchin cable TV this AM & a show called EI had a segment on these people that raised 3 badgers & took them to Alaska for some rec time! Pretty interesting & this couple have 5 badgers now & other thing BIRD, ALASKA is about the most wonderUS place I've ever been to! Man that place is something! Wish I was a snowbird!
If I had plenty of money, I just might live in Seward, AK, in June, July, and August. I do like fishing the Resurrecton Bay area.
Bird, the Buffalo river in Arkansas is a natural set aside river, no flood control. I have done white water canoe there (with my wife.) The last time we did it we spent the entire day on the river and then in the evening went to my wife's cousin's house (she and her husband are both rangers there.) The next morning after a little (not all that much) overnight rain the husband ranger takes us down by the river to see it.
It is up over 25 feet and whole cottonwood trees over 3 ft in diameter are tumbling end over end down the river. Pretty impressive, especially considering it was where we were "playing" in the white water less than 12 hrs before.
Pat
Pat, I've never done any white water canoeing or rafting, although I did get caught out on Lake Ray Hubbard once and had a long rough trip in my 17' canoe in the white caps and wind. [img]/forums/images/icons/laugh.gif[/img] I think along either the Buffalo River or the White River in Arkansas would be a good place to live, but I've only passed through that part of the country a few times. Other than stopping for the night in Arkansas as we were passing through, we did spend a week once at Dogpatch USA, south of Harrison, and a week once at Hot Springs.
My wife's cousin lived near Bald Jesse Flat which is near Yellville, Not too far east of Harrison.
The Buffalo river is quite an experience. When there is excess water it is too wild for anyone lacking a very determined death wish. Then it is dry it is a series of disconnected pools. The "Goldilocks" situation is when you have a series of pools and drops and no portage required. You drift along on the lazy current through the pools and at the lower ends you accelerate to light speed hit standing waves go over small waterfalls etc. Quite thrilling... then the whole thing repeats at the next pool.
Pat
Gee thanks for the PM threatening to turn me in to PETA!! I really needed that!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe baling IS ethical treatment of badgers...
Pat
What do they think when they eat steaks??? The cow died a natural death...... Or the Lobsters boiled alive??? Oh well.. Nice looking bales.........
Speaking of whirlpools, Bird, the attached pic is quite interesting, when considering the power of nature!
Ian, isn't that a man made spillway to keep the lake at a particular level? It doesn't look like a whirlpool to me.
I think you have a point there, Bird! I was actually wondering what that was a photo of, I've never actually seen it myself. In fact I was wondering if someone was really good with their photoshop skills! [img]/forums/images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]
I've seen what appeared to be the same kind of overflow pipe in other lakes, but of course from the picture, I can't determine the size of it. But whatever it is, I'd say a lot of water is going somewhere from that pond. [img]/forums/images/icons/laugh.gif[/img]
I logged on, 1st time in a long time & I'm trying to look at photos but there aren't any? Where are the photos, & not just this thread either?
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