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    Re: Pigeons have found me

    What i meant by they are not a problem in the country is: You can rid them the way you want and dont have to worrie about neighbors calling the law if you shoot them or pretty much any way you want to get rid of them. I love animals but not rodents and a pigeon is a rat with wings as far as im concerned. We have lots of them at work and they are nasty. DooDoo every where lots of times dead ones laying around. I hate them!
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    Re: Pigeons have found me

    Some of the guys at work have said that pigeon droppings carry diseases which can affect humans so I just did a search and here is what I found. Just one more reason to not want them around.

    This link also offers two possible solutions for getting rid of pigeons. I like second idea, baiting them with hallucinagenic corn. Sounds very interesting!
    Chris

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    Might run all your songbirds off too but an owl decoy or two placed on a limb in the area might work for you. We installed two at work after we tried everything else (except poison) to rid ourselves of an ever growing colony. The pigeons left pronto and have not been back. Our shop supervisor later put crow decoys in our main maintenance shop to chase out the sparrows, it works also. Northern Tool & Equipment sells the decoys. Ours are just hard plastic but are life size and look real. Check out this link: Northern Tool - Owl Decoy

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    I thought your idea about the owl decoys was a good one so I told my supervisor at work. He informed me that one building had two decoys in it and pigeons could be seen roosting near them. He said the pigeons get used to them and ignore them after a while. Too bad! I am tired of pigeon poop everywhere.
    Chris

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    Again, is it better never than late or late than never?

    Anyway, if you want to get more aggressive than tanglefoot try this: String a taught small gage wire above long poles and other favorite roosts inside your barn or affected building. It will interfere with their perching.

    You an get really aggressive and make an electric perch. Use a small diameter PVC pipe. Drill a series of holes in it at 3, 6, 9, and 12 o'clock on say 2 inch centers. Weave a bare conductive wire through a pair of holes, say at 1200 then weave that wire through a pair of holes at 3 o'clock, then 6, then 9 and repeat. A second wire (always kept insulated fron the first is similarly run through sets of holes.

    When you are through you should have an electric perch that will have a high probability of having a bird contact one conductor with one foot and another conductor with the other foot. The objective being a foot to foot shock not just through one part of a foot to another part of the same foot. Energize the perch with a multi-time timer like is used for turning a light on and off at intervals. Place the perch in a "nice" location likely to be frequented by pidgeons and where no barn cats or people might contact it.

    If you have a high pidgeon population you'll accumulalte quite a pile of dead birds beneath the "Electric Perch." If collected while fresh, you can stuff and roast them or freeze till you accumulalte enough for a feast.

    Alternatively a small metal feeding trough can be rigged with conductive perches insulated from the trough. One connection to the trough and one to the perches. This needs to be inside a barn or other location not frequented by desireable birds. NOTE: you do want to remember to disconect power when cleaning, filling, or relocating or feel the wrath of Ready Kilowatt (KillerWatt?)

    There are feeders that discriminate against birds above a certain weight. They are sold as squirrel proof feeders but will keep pidgeons out of the feed.

    If it is worth it to you a supressor for a .22 can be legally purchased for about $300 (plus $200 for a one time Government fee) Takes a more in-depth background check than a concealed carry permit) You can then blaze away with .22 shot shells in your .22 rifle (Shotgun?) They won't shoot far enough to endanger anyone at any reasonable distance and with the supressor it sure won't be disturbing anyone with the sound. The thump of a fat pidgeon hitting the ground would likely be louder.

    I observed the proprieter of a local gun shop fire a suppressed Ruger 10-22 inside his shop. I thought he had dry fired it (snapped it on an empty) it was that quiet. It would make a silent semi-auto mini-shotgun.

    I personally refuse to use poison for bird control and have been getting away from poison for rats and mice as I am concerned that the "sick" ones may get outside and be eaten by owls, hawks, snakes, or whatever and harm them.

    Pat
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    Pat,

    Good suggestions for controlling an unwanted pigeon population.

    The pigeon problem at work has been addressed by bringing in a local pest control company which distributed the hallucanigenic corn in the areas where the pigeons were congregating and roosting. The good news is that there are very few pigeons left. The bad news is that in the first week I found four dead pigeons, one dead mocking bird, one dead blackbird and one dead dove. I don't so much mourn the passing of the pigeons but the killing of desireable birds does not make me very happy. However, this is the approach that management has decided to take and there is not anything I can do about it. At least I can alert everyone who reads this post that hallucinagenic corn is not a good route to go for pigeon control.
    Chris

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    Thre is considerable lead time on getting a suppressor. The shop where I ordered mine estimated 3-4 months. Up to a month to get product and 3 months to go through Governmental paperwork hoops and delays. Since the device is registered by serial number and the transfer fee is $200, I won't be selling it or letting it out on loan. The good news is that it can be attached to any .22 I want to put it on (considering that it has to be physically possible) and I'm told with a Ruger 10-22 that you don't have to use subsonic ammo since velocity losses will drop most standard long rifle rounds below 1100 fps.

    A big plus is that the 10-22 will autoload the .22 shot shells with the blue plastic bullet shaped tops. The old fashioned shot shells with the long cases crimped over at the end didn't digest well in most auto loaders (at least the ones I had).

    I'll be glad to have a super quiet .22 short range shotgun. I have friends with extreme pidgeon problems that could be solved quickly and easily after I run out of moving targets. I'll bet it will look odd to anyone who would see it in action, a small gun looking thing making pidgeons silently drop out of the air in rapid succession.

    This would work just fine in many indoor industrial situations and is used for professional pest control. I too have an adult air rifle, a Feinwork Brau with a 3-8x Beeman zoom scope that will drive tacks, but tacks standing still not flying ones. The cyclic rate on the air rifle is a tad slow for the action one sees in pidgeon ellimination.

    I once had a problem with pidgeons eating my dogs kibble. I set up a propped up bird cage as a trap over the food dish and the greedy pidgeons swarmed in and knocked the prop out and caught themselves.

    I have other designs for pest ellimination that keeps poison out of the ecosystem but most folks don't have industrial strength pulse lasers handy. I recently bought a wind up mouse trap that uses no bait or poison that could be scaled up to deal with pidgeons. I once thought about an industrial strength shop vac or "dust collector" system as a pidgeon vacuum. Imagine a pidgeon sized wind tunnel that turns on when occupied. Pidgeon is bagged for disposal.

    Patrick
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    Re: Pigeons have found me

    I have been using an old crossman pellet gun to shoot them in my barn. With pellets two pumps dead pidgeon, with five pumps dead bird and hole in roof. [img]/forums/images/icons/shocked.gif[/img]

    Also some good wing shooting, someone walks into the barn the birds fly out through eve and bang bang! They usually circle the barn before flying off and bang again.

    Poop on tobacco ups the weight but the quality goes down, probability just goes into smokes anyway. [img]/forums/images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

    Patrick

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    "Poop on tobacco ...probability just goes into smokes anyway."

    Or chewing tobacco! [img]/forums/images/icons/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/icons/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]
    Chris

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    Do you shout "PULL" to get your assistant to flush the quary? I had a flashback to the Mel Brooks movie where the French nobles are skeet shooting with peasants for clay pidgeons. Recall why the frisbie-like targets are called clay pidgeons? Because they are clay and are used in place of real pidgeons that used to be released for wing shooters.

    If you can get close enough and the noise isn't a non-starter then shotshells in a Ruger 10-22 or similar that will auto-load the shotshells works well and you can get off a decent fraction of the 10 shots if you are a good "snap shooter" and are in close. Doesn't penetrate the roof either but you need to be close.

    Don't worry about them contaminating the tobacco, the surgeon general has placed adequate warning labels on all tobacco products sold here for human use.

    Pat
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