No Krogers up this way, Plus I think she wants feathers and all. [img]/forums/images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]
Just called agway. The guy who orders birds isn't in. I know they sell chicks there, didn't know they also sold pheasant & duck. Looks like Santa might literally have to kill for the presents [img]/forums/images/icons/crazy.gif[/img]
Find a retriever club in your area or field trial organization. They will know where to get birds in your area. The local newsaper may have the name of a club. Live birds would actually be better for the dogs they should not hurt them. I trained two dogs with live birds the only ones that did not survive was an occasional pidgeon. We usually trained 4 or 5 dogs during a session and ducks always made it through it OK.
If the dog does kill a bird he has a "hard mouth". Wrap a piece of hardware cloth or something similar around the bird and it will usually make him hold softer. Good Luck and the dogs will love it.
Mike
Mike
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Just checked with our MD dog friends who do bird retrieval training; they obtain baby chicks (ducks and geese mostly, in that part of the country) from breeders who breed just for training, then kill and freeze them. Feathers and all is right...for the training to be effective, the training aids have to be the real thing.