[img]/forums/images/icons/tongue.gif[/img] Went to an estate auction yesterday and bought an older Lincoln buzz box for 95 bucks. It has been around a long time, but the original electrode holder is not all burned away as they get with any kind of steady useage. It is the welder that has the ball-handle crank in front that you crank and the little pointer in the rear moves in an arc cross the curved top of the housing. It is HEAVY!!! Has two steel wheels in back. It also came with a carbon arc torch attachment. I was really intending to buy an AC/DC stick machine as a companion to my Miller 35 wire feed welder, but I could not resist this old-but-good Lincoln. [img]/forums/images/icons/smile.gif[/img] This is the same welder we had in hi skool Ag shop in the fifties. I THINK they call this model the Dial-Arc. [img]/forums/images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]