Ok I've thrown out the deisel spray on application idea. Have any of you tried anything else that might help bind it up. I'm not looking to make it like finished blacktop but maybe a way to put some hold to the surface material. Oh and just to be a pain it needs to be affordable [img]/forums/images/icons/crazy.gif[/img] Thank you so much for any info and I will pass on to this group my results.