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    Mobile Plasma cutting

    About to pull the trigger on a Hypertherm600. However, I want to be able to use this away from the shop as well (like on the miles of fence I have to build). I know my Lincoln Ranger 10000 will pull it w/ no problem, but...looking at the specs it looks like it requires 6 CFM @ 72PSI of air to operate. Anyone doing anything like this already? Any suggestions on the air compressor to run this jewel? Looks like I will be dedicating my 5x8 trailer to this task so here is another item to be allowed for in the design. Any help is much appreciated.

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    Re: Mobile Plasma cutting

    Well, found out the answer to my own question. I don't think plasma would be a good choice for what I plan to do. After talking to several people around here who use plasma it seems it works best in a "controlled" environment. By the time I got one big enough to handle thick enough steel and then got a compressor big enough to supply air I would be taxing my generator a little. I also think the consumables would catch up pretty quick cost-wise.
    End result, I bought a new torch.

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    Re: Mobile Plasma cutting

    I was looking into getting a stick welder to do my fences. I wanted to get an electrical one that was like the old ones used in school shop. I am doing steel pipe fencing. Can I use the wire fed welders to create a bond that will hold horses. I have been Drilling holes and using bolts to hold things. The only good thing about this is that I can take them down fast.
    I have 6 acres in Colorado and plan on raising some butcher cows for meat and have a few horses

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    Re: Mobile Plasma cutting

    There are people a lot more "in the know" than me on welding. I have always used a stick welder on fence corners. Something about penetration of the weld, ease of use. I don't know all the ins and outs. But I do know this, I see guys out building pipe fences and don't think I have ever seen one of them using a wire welder. They may own one, but it stays at the shop most of the time. I asked a couple of them and was told it had to do w/ wind blowing the shielding gas away from the arc. Wire welders it seems work better in the controlled environs of the shop. May be a cost thing too, but I don't know what consumables cost for wire since I don't own one.
    As far as bolting corners together for takedown, hmmmmm.... I remember few times we ever needed to move a fence, but that is us, your situation may be different. When we did move a fence corner/brace, it involved a torch and a tractor w/ a loader.
    Biggest reason I bought a welder (Lincoln ranger 10) was that at $35/hr to hire it done, I could pay for a welder w/ savings. I am no master welder, but stuff I have stuck together has held so far. [img]/forums/images/icons/wink.gif[/img]
    Also, I have found lots of projects around the ranch that are a lot easier when you involve a welder.

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    Re: Mobile Plasma cutting

    [img]/forums/images/icons/tongue.gif[/img] Having worked off a "welding truck" for years and years in my own businesses, I can tell you that wire welding in the field can have it's disadvantages. Portable welding work often involves dragging the leads into places that are inconvenient, a long way from the truck, and hard to get to. Yes, wind is a problem unless you use inner shield wire and even that is problematic. We used to hire a guy who had a special wire-feed welding setup on a service rig that he used for running "electric bronze", a process that we used to rebuild large pump impellers right at the location; without moving the huge pumps to the shop. That was really the only portable wire-feed welding application that I ever saw. Just get yourself a nice 200 Lincoln DC machine, one of those multi-colored welding hats, a good flip-front helmet, some gloves, maybe some leathers to save your arms, and a plug of chewing tobacco. That should set you up nicely. You'll soon come to regard it as a badge of honor to have every tee shirt that you own full of little burned holes from overhead welding, and you'll like the idea of sliding under a pipe to do a bellhole triple-pass weld. [img]/forums/images/icons/crazy.gif[/img]
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    Re: Mobile Plasma cutting

    Dave, Your seniority is showing. I suspect your advisee would be betteer served by an auto-darkening shield with adjustable shade and delay time. A good flip front shield is way better than a fixed one where you have to raise and lower the whole thing but the auto-darkening version is SUPERIOR in just about all attrubutes except maybe grinding.

    I'd like to have a flip front auto-darkening shield so I could flip the auto unit up out of the way when grinding since the grinding sparks trigger the auto-darkening circuit and your view of the grinder is repetitively shut off unless you are working in very very bright light like full sun.

    My wire feed unit works just as good as my stick unit out of doors even in the wind, at starting grass fires but strong wind will blow the shielding gas away which makes for poor welding.

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    Re: Mobile Plasma cutting


    Tarps [img]/forums/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

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    Re: Mobile Plasma cutting

    [img]/forums/images/icons/tongue.gif[/img] I don't know why this is, Pat, but I have a illogical fear of the auto-darkening helmets. I just don't know it I could actually strike an arc with a clear lens or not? Usually I'm OK with technology, but this is one thing I'm having a problem with. [img]/forums/images/icons/crazy.gif[/img]
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    Re: Mobile Plasma cutting

    Egon, Yeah, kinda sorta sometimes maybe. if the wind isn't so strong as to make retaining the tarps a major project.

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    Re: Mobile Plasma cutting

    Dave, It would still be a lot neater to use an auto darkening unit and just close your eyes for an instant as you start to strike the arc rather than have to do the head flip thing. I have a problem with "loosing" my place while doing the head flip thing on delicate or small jobs where with the auto unit I can see just fine all the time so I don't have a problem of my hands drifting off target.

    Really, you never sense the arc glare because the unit switches so fast. One instant you are looking at where you are going to weld and the next you are looking at it through a shade 9-12 or so glass with the arc providing the light to let yo see through a glass darkly... I couldn't resist it. the auto unit isn't like a clear glass, it is more like sun glasses. It still helps to be in a well lighted area or in the sunlight when using the auto unit... helps but not mandatory.

    I have used two different units and both work fine with never a glitch. If left switched off for a long time the screen gets blotchy on one of the units (looks like measels) but as soon as it switches to dark mode it is fine and stays fine even when clear for quite a while.

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