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    Raised beds, deer, getting older and such

    We've had discussions about how to keep the @#$%^& deer out of our gardens, and I've described what works for me:

    I have about a 60x60 foot garden area which I till with my five foot KK tiller behind my tractor. Because I do the tilling that way, and because of space constraints around my garden spot, I need to have a fence I can take down to give me tractor access. So, I've been using cattle panels, which are 52 inches high by 16 feet. I hold them up with minimal numbers of t-posts just barely sunk in the ground. Because deer can easily bounce over that low a barrier, I wire 2-3 foot pieces of pvc pipe to each t-post and string nylon cord all the way around the plot, using two strands with the highest at about seven feet. I then use plastic flagging tape to add some visual clues to the string. In the three years I've done this, no deer have jumped into my garden. It's pretty easy to set up and take down. Except.....I have to store the cattle panels somewhere when I'm not using them. Well, I guess I could just leave them on the ground near my garden spot, but that's not aesthetically pleasing. [img]/forums/images/icons/crazy.gif[/img] So, I've been hanging them on spikes in my barn. If you've ever tried lifting cattle panels and moving them around, you'll know that hanging them like I do and getting them down can be a real fun chore. They try their best to wiggle, get caught on anything nearby, and whap you in the head when you think you've got them under control.

    I'm turning 57 this year, and I figure I can keep doing this stuff for a while yet, but there will come a time when I want to garden, but with less effort.

    So, as it happens, I also have a small area where I have constructed two raised beds using cinder blocks. The beds are about 4x24 feet, and are enclosed in a fenced area 18x36 feet, with the whole space around the beds mulched, so I have walkways around the beds and a place for two more smaller raised beds when I get around to building them. The cinder blocks make good borders. They're relatively cheap, last forever, and have handy holes in them for holding poles, or marigolds or whatever. The fence around this area is 5 foot welded wire, with 2x4 inch holes. It should keep out most small critters, but again the deer could easily bounce over the five foot fence. So, what I've done is stick pieces of pvc pipe (I love pvc pipe) in the cinderblock holes every few feet along the sides of the raised beds adjacent to the fence. The deer don't seem interested in bouncing into the area if they will either impale themselves on those white things in there, or perhaps break a leg on the cinderblocks.

    Now, I've started thinking about converting my whole garden to these raised beds. I have space for at least twelve 4x24 foot beds, and access to unlimited free mulch, and inexpensive compost, from the nearby city. I'm thinking of starting my conversion to raised beds at one end of my garden and just gradually filling the entire space over two to three years. Then, when I have it all finished, I can put up my premanent fence and use the same trick with trellises, pcv pipe, tomato stakes, or whatever, along sides of the beds adjacent to the fence to provide the deer deterring visual barrier. Pieces of cattle panels can make really nice trellises, too. My dirt is already pretty good, but I'll add enough organic stuff to each bed to make it easy to till with the little Mantis-type tiller I have. If my experience with my first two of these beds holds true, I should be able to essentially eliminate weeds from them.

    Sound reasonable?

    Chuck



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    Re: Raised beds, deer, getting older and such

    Reasonable? I'd say it sounds pretty good!

    I love PVC pipe, too! Very versatile.

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    Re: Raised beds, deer, getting older and such

    One of the two existing beds I have is filled with strawberries. The other has garlic, onions, spinach, radishes and lettuce. All that stuff is doing so well that my CFO is really impressed. The cost of 6x8x16" cinder blocks is now up to about a buck apiece, so each bed costs about $44 to build just in blocks. Not all that much unless you want to build twelve of them. I'll probably build the first four this fall after the garden is finished, and if that goes well next growing season, I'll think about finishing the whole shebang and putting up the permanent fence. I'm running water up to the garden and to my raised beds this week so I don't have to drag hose around so much. I suspect that by the time I get done with all these improvements intended to make my life easier, I'll really need to make my life easier.

    Chuck

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    Re: Raised beds, deer, getting older and such

    Look into www.FreeCycle.org I've got over 1000 nice paver bricks, FREE, that way. Maybe you can get some cinder blocks.


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    Re: Raised beds, deer, getting older and such

    Couldn't RR ties be competitive?

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    Re: Raised beds, deer, getting older and such

    Maybe, if I had a convenient source. They'd have to be about $6-7. I'm not sure about the creosote either.

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    Re: Raised beds, deer, getting older and such

    Around here, you're getting a good deal at 10 bucks each. i'd wonder about the creosote, too.

    I'm thinking about using slab wood. I've got a fairly local source (an hour away) where I can get all the oak slabs I can load on my truck for $15. Some of it's pretty thick stuff - as much as 8 inches. I'm planning to use some to make some benches for around the place, and I'm mulling over getting a small chain saw mill to rip some straight sections for planters...


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    Re: Raised beds, deer, getting older and such

    Qak would probably last quite a while as edging for a raised bed. If you can get it that cheap it probably makes sense. I don't have a source for it, and I do like the way the blocks work, so I'll probably go that route. My SIL is in the HVAC business, has contruction contacts, and can probably get me some kind of deal on blocks, If nothing else, he should be able to get me the contractor rate. Moving blocks is great exercise, too!

    Chuck

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    Re: Raised beds, deer, getting older and such

    Great exercise, and you can reconfigure your beds pretty easily if you want to. And they will never rot.

    I think it's a no-brainer except for the cost. If you don't have a cheaper alternative, well, it's a no-brainer.

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    Re: Raised beds, deer, getting older and such

    You know, the approximate $600 for the blocks for all the raised beds I plan sounded like a lot of dough to grow veggies until I got into putting in a couple of yard hydrants this past weekend. With the rental for the trencher and some special fittings to let me tap into my main water line to the house, I spent about $400 for those two hydrants, placed so I can easily water my garden areas. Of course now we're getting drenching rains, but some time I'll need to water! Ah well. I really do like to grow edible stuff. I guess hobbies can get expensive.

    Chuck

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