[img]/forums/images/icons/tongue.gif[/img] Wire IS a little easier, as long as the machine has an internal contactor. This business of having the wire live all the time is the pits, and takes away the advantage of setting the wire where you wqnt it and then pulling the trigger. [img]/forums/images/icons/crazy.gif[/img] I think that first-time welders who learn with wire may have to get themselves used to "sewing" the seam together with lots and lots of rod motion. The deposit rate is so small on some of those machines.....especially with inner shield wire... that you have to be conscious of how much you need to "linger" and build up some deposit. [img]/forums/images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]