[img]/forums/images/icons/tongue.gif[/img] As soon as it is convenient, Pat, I would like to have you post a list ....(it probably won't be very long so it shouldn't take you more than a few minutes)... of things that you don't know diddly about. Knowing just that much would save a lot of surprise and downright astonishment on my part plus a lot of head shaking. So far, it has been one head-shake after another as different areas of that cavernous brain you have are selected by the IBM 360 Model 30 Disc drive retrieval system and brought to "read" status. You know the one I mean, they used to call it the "pizza oven" when IBM used it in the middle sixties. [img]/forums/images/icons/tongue.gif[/img] This last posting on the .22s was the capper (excuse the pun) you have a whole disc with info on ballistics too? Gaaaaaaaaa [img]/forums/images/icons/crazy.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/icons/crazy.gif[/img]