must be nice to have a 2 foot frost line!! When we bought our place I noticed the barn hydrant leaked. Tried replacing the guts - no good still leaked. Called in an "expert" to put in a new one. Guy dug a hole about 12 inches in diameter down to the base. Turns out the original knucklehead who installed put the black poly pipe onto the male end of the hydrant but never used any hose clamps!! That's where it was leaking from. My installer replaced with the new one anyway and did that all by laying on the ground and working in that 12 inch hole. Now he did have some long arms 'cuase I wouldn't have been able to reach that far and my hole would have been 3 feet across!!! That was the best $80 I ever spent!!!!! [img]/forums/images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]