Sorry it took soo long too thank you for your help . I never did find a ser. no. on that crazy thing. I refinished the wood and shined it up good and give it to my brother in ALA. This one shoot fine and was rust free. Darn shame they realy aren't worth much at all. Of course I told bubba it was very unique and worth a toad sack full of money [img]/forums/images/icons/wink.gif[/img] He agreed that he owed me big time. [img]/forums/images/icons/grin.gif[/img] Thanks again.