Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 33

Thread: Using potassium permanganate and septic systems

  1. #11
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    SouthCentral Oklahoma
    Posts
    5,236

    Re: Using potassium permanganate and septic system

    Blue, The US GOV NOAA facility at Norman, Oklahoma has the Severe Weather dudes and dudettes. They did a statistical anlaysis on the expectation value of a residentaial structure receiving significant tornadic damage in the "HEART" of tornado alley (I'm only a few miles from the actual geographic center of tornado alley but the concept is pretty diffuse and the frequency of tornadic activity here versus miles away is essentially equal.

    Anyway were not talking frequency of only utter destruction or just a shingle lifted but that of significant damage. The data support the contention that on average a residential structure in this area will receive significant tornadic damage is on the order of once in 4,000 years. I believe they did good science and don't flaw their math.

    Then why do I advocate storm shelters? Why am I currently building 9/16 inch thick steel storm shutters for my saferoom/bedroom with the 8 inch thick concrete walls? A couple reasons: 1. I sold my wife on moving here with the promise that her bedroom would be her safe room and she could ignore tornado watches and just go to bed at night. (political reason) and 2. the practical reason, what if this is the 4,000th year? or maybe next year is it or...

    True story: I forgot the name of the town but there was a town destroyed by a tornado. The citizens rallied together with community spirit and most stayed and rebuilt. The next year the town was destroyed by a tornado on the SAME DATE as the previous year. Still many of the citizens rallied together and rebuilding was begun. There were defections after each destruction but still after two wipeouts the rebuilding began anew. Yes, they were wiped out by a tornado again for the third year in a row ON THE SAME DATE!!!

    A very unlikely coincidence, BUT it happened. I would have been safe and secure in the same saferoom with no saferoom rebuilding required except replacing the glass in the windows as the storm shutters are on the inside.

    I think Murphy was an optimist when he asserted that anything that can go wrong will and usually does at the worst possible moment. having my home hit by a tornado is unlikely but if it is hit the downside potential is great enough to warrant preparing for the unlikely event.

    I don't visit the Indian gaming facilities (casinos) that liter the countryside around here nor do I buy lottery tickets. Is this a contradiction since I otherwise prepare for long shots? Not really. How am I harmed if I don't win a jackpot? How would I be harmed if I "hit the tornado jackpot?" Death is nature's way of telling you to slow down. A tornado would make an effective messenger.

    Not forgetting mercury poisoning...

    Reasonable info on mercury poisoning

    This is a practical reasonable and non-histerical description of mercury poisoning which also incloudes practical instructions for cleaning up a small mercury spill such as from a broken thermometer. Too bad the school officials were thinking liability and needing to seem CONCERNED FOR THE CHILDREN rather than being practical, and closing down the one room till it was cleaned up. (a common HVAC system with no separate air handler controls would have required securing the entire system. Mercury vapors are dangerous.

    [img]/forums/images/icons/smile.gif[/img] Pat [img]/forums/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
    "I'm not from your planet, monkey boy!"

  2. #12
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    SE Texas
    Posts
    11

    Re: Using potassium permanganate and septic systems

    Hey guys what happened to the origonal question

  3. #13
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    SouthCentral Oklahoma
    Posts
    5,236

    Re: Using potassium permanganate and septic system

    Cox dude, I checked your STEALTH BIO and saw no reference to your being appointed a member in good standing of the THREAD POLICE!

    It is typical in this and other friendly gathering places type forums that after all or most timely informatioin that is going to be elicited has been elicited that we just enjoy ourselves.

    Hope that doesn't enrage your librarian instincts.

    [img]/forums/images/icons/smile.gif[/img] Pat [img]/forums/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
    "I'm not from your planet, monkey boy!"

  4. #14
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    SE Texas
    Posts
    11

    Re: Using potassium permanganate and septic system

    Sorry, It's just that I have one of those filters and did'nt know that much about it. Hey the info. you guys are putting out is great. I just wanted to know more about that filter. The way everone is talking I might be looking for another filter. The one I have was at the house when I bought it. It does a good job on the iron and H2S smell. Any way sorry that I came over that way. Keep up the info

  5. #15
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    SouthCentral Oklahoma
    Posts
    5,236

    Re: Using potassium permanganate and septic system

    IF you want to see something off topic... Look at the how you tell a watermelon is ripe thread. Bird and I "DID IT AGAIN!"

    Regarding the filter. When you have a working professional water guy here telling you the down side of your equipement it is definitely time to rethink the solution. Is it worth the risk to stay with the old system and maybe save a couple bucks? What is your family's health worth?

    So far our well has produced sufficient water of good quality but being as how we are in an old oil field that was heavily worked back in the unenlightened days of pure greed and no regulations or adherence to any there were, it is common for wells to suddenly go salty. We have had rural water available for a year or so now and that gives the area an insurance policy (until the lake supplying the system goes dry.)

    Some climatoligist say we could have another 5 years of drought coming. If so, we are in for hard times in this cattle producing area. Half of my ponds are partially spring fed and not stressed yet but when the ground water feeding them is exhausted and not replenished by rainfall.... this place will be Patrick's Desert Estates.

    [img]/forums/images/icons/smile.gif[/img] Pat [img]/forums/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
    "I'm not from your planet, monkey boy!"

  6. #16
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Wherever I park the motorhome
    Posts
    116

    Re: Using potassium permanganate and septic system

    Since it is working well, don't fix it if it ain't broken comes to mind. Check back when you have to replace it. It's broken if the water is the slightest pink and don't drink or cook with pink water.

    Gary Slusser
    Quality Water Associates

  7. #17
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    SouthCentral Oklahoma
    Posts
    5,236

    Re: Using potassium permanganate and septic system

    Gary, If it were your own installaltion would you just monitor the color of the water hoping no other family member got a drink in the dark to delay the installatiion of a new system or would you change it out without waiting for it to fail?

    [img]/forums/images/icons/smile.gif[/img] Pat [img]/forums/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
    "I'm not from your planet, monkey boy!"

  8. #18
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Wherever I park the motorhome
    Posts
    116

    Re: Using potassium permanganate and septic system

    I'd use it until it started to fail to remove the iron and H2S it is supposed to, then replace it. I would also instruct family members to draw a glass of water on their way to bed and take it to bed with them instead of drawing water in the dark. Or tell them to turn the bathroom light on instead of drawing water in the dark... [img]/forums/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

    Gary Slusser
    Quality Water Associates

  9. #19
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    SouthCentral Oklahoma
    Posts
    5,236

    Re: Using potassium permanganate and septic system

    Gary, If it were a military organization you might be successful with your approach. Being just regular folks and considering the possibility of children I think playing Russian Roulette with water quallity to delay a retrofit's expense is risky business.

    I for one have electrtoluminescent nite lites (the lime green glow thingies) and so we don't turn on bathroom lights in the middle of the night (it hurts my eyes to think about it) and in the reduced green light I don't think I could see if the water were colored.

    Nah, here is where possible and practical part company. It is theoretically possible to be be disciplined enough but in practice I think it wouldn't be worth the risk to me. I don't see me holding a series of training seminars for friends, relatives, and guests to alert them to the risk of poisoning themselves from my tap. Even if I didn't care about anyone's well being, liability considerations would drive the economic decision making process toward a safer system.

    I don't see setting up a small kiosk under the front porch with legal contracts and disclaimers for anyone entering the house to read through and sign acknowledgement of.

    Slapshot didn't mention the ages of his children but I would like to see those numbers get a lot bigger and NOT worry if by some slight coincidence a kid forgot to turn the light on and check the color of the water before getting a drink coincidently when the dangerous system had failed. It would be little comfort to me to KNOW I HAD WARNED THEM and it was their own fault for not following simple instructions (what kid always follows instructions?)

    You can not remove all possibility of anything bad ever hapening to a child but if you have a dangerous trip hazard do you tell eveyone to be aware and go on or do you fix it in a timely manner? Every kid gets warned to be careful around construction debris but does that excuse leaving boards laying about wth nails stiking up? How about bare live wires during a wiring project. Is it enough to say. "don't anyone touch a live wire" or do youi put a wire nut on the ends of exposed hot wires? My electricians cover all exposed live wires.

    [img]/forums/images/icons/smile.gif[/img] Pat [img]/forums/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
    "I'm not from your planet, monkey boy!"

  10. #20
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    112

    Re: Using potassium permanganate and septic system

    You don't have to turn the lights on to see if the water is purple. When you get up in the morning you will be able to tell you drank PP by the brown stains on your teeth.

    bob...

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •